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Friends of Scouting2007 FOS Patch

Projects and more sources
Model Rocket Sources
Raingutter Regatta Boats

Cheap model rocket engines.  Best price I know is about $1.15 per engine at Michaels with a half price coupon.  Cheaper would be better.


Curious Goods
things you never knew you needed
and where to find them


Scouts excel at scrounging and using common materials in unusual ways. Nonetheless it's real hard to acquire 100 Pringles cans on short notice without sending your cholesterol through the ceiling.  Scouts and puppy dogs will eat Pringles in large quantities, but it isn't good for them either and dogs will usually eat the cans along with the chips.

This page contains a list of unusual items, possible uses, and sources.  As you read through this page, please keep in mind that:
  • There is always room for additional items on this list.  Contributions are welcome and encouraged.
  • There may be cheaper sources, cheaper substitutes for items on this list . . . let us know.
Remember -- this list is not exhaustive.  It's provided to give you ideas and to start a good discussion.  Feedback is welcome.  -- AWM


A Comment About Price Points

Price points matter.  The Council
OWOP event had over 5000 attendees.  With early bird discounts, these people paid an average of around $12 for admission.  Any activity that consumed materials had a budget measured in "pennies per scout".  Creative redesign of activities and attention to choice and sources of materials make a huge difference.  

A typical example is the Raingutter Regatta boat discussed by the article linked in the left column.  The retail price of a BSA raingutter regatta boat is about $4.  By purchasing balsa in bulk and making some part substitutions, a raingutter regatta boat kit can be assembled for about 50 to 60 cents.   This is the difference between providing a boat that a boy can play with vs providing a boat that he can build, play with, and then take home.



Find it on Ebay
Need a
Kudu Horn for that
Scout Centenary Celebration?
Baden Powell
How about ping pong balls by the gross? (should
be good for something)
but play the video (at right) so you fully understand  the risks.
Public Service Video



Altoids Boxes

Usage

Altoid boxes are popular as containers for pocket first aid kits and pocket survival kits.   They are not waterproof,
but that's what duct tape is for.
Sources

These can be purchased on EBay in lots of 50 for about $15 to $20.  It would be nice to find a cheaper source.
Balsa Wood




Usage
  • Fins, wings, and nose cones for rockets and gliders
  • Easily carved and shaped
  • Raingutter regatta boat hulls
  • tinder for firestarting

Substitutes
Balsa is hard to beat.  It's strong, light, and relatively cheap. Still, in some applications I've been able to replace it with styrofoam, insulating foam, compact disks, and pokemon cards (rocket fins). It all depends on the application.  Be opportunistic
Sources

When Pack 365 recreated the BSA raingutter regatta boats, we purchased balsa from

 http://www.nationalbalsa.com/

We ordered 2"x3/4"x48" balsa sticks for about $2.50 apiece (May 2006).

You can also order balsa stick and sheet stock from Ebay.  Either of these sources should be cheaper than retail prices at local hobby stores.

Bamboo Skewers
Usage
  • Masts for homemade raingutter regatta boats
  • Any craft project that requires dowel stock in 3/32" to 1/8" sizes
Sources

These can be found in most grocery stores. They come in packages of 100 for one to two dollars.
Bike Helmets

Usage

At my house, many of the bike helmets we purchase end up being used as dog toys.  Our dogs love them, especially the crunchy shell and the buckles.

Unfortunately service as a dog toy degrades the helmet's ability to separate my kid's head from the pavement.  

Bike Rodeos are a good opportunity to inspect and replace helmets.
Sources

Ohio ThinkFirst has done helmet exchanges for scout Bike Rodeos (e.g. this one and possibly this one).  As of July '07 the relevant contact information is:

Central Ohio ThinkFirst
Injury Prevention Program of the Level I Trauma Center
The Ohio State University Medical Center
Office:  614-293-3021
"Providing Injury Prevention Programs to the Central Ohio Community"
Thinkfirst logo
Boomerangs


Usage



Throwable object
Sources
leading edge boomerangs
Leading Edge Boomerangs is run by Chet Snouffer of Columbus.  Chet has given boomerang demonstrations at Council residence camp and District Daycamp.  Check out his website.
Boot Repair
boots
Before

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After
Usage

Resole your old hiking boots so you don't have to break your feet into a new pair.
Company logo
Rocky Mountain Resole will resole most major brands of hiking boots.  Cost as of May '08 was $65.  Additional repairs would be extra.
2-liter Bottles

Usage
  • Water Rockets
Sources

One of the local bottling companies gave us a pallet of plastic bottles for the 2006 Buckeye Daycamp.  My guess is that most of them will do this for the asking.
Bowling Pins
Usage
  • Driving tent stakes; generic pounding tool
  • Troop "The Three Stooges" appreciation night
three stooges
Sources

Apparently bowling pins wear out and bowling alleys replace them at regular intervals.  Take your troop or pack bowling some evening and chat up the manager of the bowling alley.
Rifle Brass


Usage

Rifle brass is a material looking for a project.  It's easily obtained in quantity and uniform sizes.  I just haven't figured out what to do with the stuff.
  • 22 cartridges can be used as bootlace tips
  • 45 casings can be used to wick a rope -- glue the casing onto the rope tip.   Various sizes are available for different kinds of rope.
  • Rifle casings can be fit to the ends of dowels as ferrules.  
  • I've used 20 millimeter cartridge brass (available at army surplus stores) as the tip of a walking stick.
That's all I've come up with.  Suggestions are welcome.
Sources

Any shooting range (e.g. the Powder Room) will generate used rifle brass by the bucket. They'll probably give you some for the asking. The Shooting Venture Crew, Crew 45, can also obtain rifle brass in moderate quantities.

Camp Cups
Usage

These are plastic sports cups that we give to the kids at daycamp to help keep them hydrated.  They can be purchased with pack or scout artwork printed on the side.  Work great as dog toys/treats.
Sources

If you google the search phrase "14 oz. stein" you'll turn up lots of hits to vendors that manufacture promotional items.  Typically you need to purchase them in lots of 200.  Unit price is $0.60 to $0.70. Turnaround varies, but we were able to get them in 10 days.
Carabiner
Usage

Inexpensive carabiners are used to hang useful items from belt loops, tent poles, and clothes lines.  Cubbies like them.
Sources

Use google to find companies that sell promotional items.  Pack 365 used
http://www.laserengravedkeychains.com.  They sell custom engraved carabiners and other stuff.  We purchased several lots of overrun carabiners, some blank some with random engraving.  Cost was $35 for a lot of 100.
Cardboard 
Usage

You can face a chain link fence with cardboard to make a backstop for archery and other shooting sports (like slingshots).  
Sources

We got cardboard for the Buckeye Daycamp from the Bike Source.  Bicycles come in large cartons and the Bike Source store at Bethel and Sawmill will give you as much cardboard as you can carry away.
Cicadas




Usage

It's been reported that Cicadas are pretty good in a stir fry, but they need to be collected and frozen just after they emerge.  

A more appropriate use might be to incorporate one (live/dead?) in a neckerchief slide the next time the monthly cub theme is

"We're down with bugs".

NOTE:  While cicaedas are mostly harmless, some people are allergic to them.
Sources

Cicadas were plentiful in Columbus about three years ago, but are not expected to emerge again for another 14 years.  They are emerging in other parts of the country -- at this point, finding a sources is a research problem.  
Ebay perhaps?
Concretions

Usage

Concretions are geological formations found in the Columbus area.  Look for them in shale streams, parks, and flower beds.  You can find large specimens in the creek at Camp Lazarus.  Look below the amphetheatre.

Concretions can be an interesting addition to the Webelos geology activity.  
Sources

ODNR has a fact sheet about concretions.  You can fine large examples (one to 5 feet) in the shale streams around Columbus.  Al Magnuson has smaller examples of ironstone and dolomite concretions (2" to 8") that can be lugged to a pack or den meeting.
Cyanoacrylate Glue
Usage

Gluing things together
  • Fins to rockets
  • Fingers to fingers, scouts to scouts
  • Fletching arrows ??
  • Gluing a coin to a sidewalk is occasionally amusing
   Superglues are strong enough for building rockets and airplanes and set up faster than wood glue.  They come in different thicknesses.  If you use these glues in scout activities, make sure you have a bottle of debonding agent so that you can unglue any scouts that have become accidentally or intentionally bonded.
   If you apply a layer of superglue to a seam and gently pour baking soda over it, the glue will cure very quickly.

Sources

Hobby stores sell Cyanoacrylate glues in a variety of quantities and thicknesses.  They also sell debonding agent.  Not sure if hobby stores are the best source if you need a lot of this stuff.
Don't buy more than you need, once the container is opened it doesn't keep very well.


Film Canisters Usage
Sources

Digital photography is making these hard to find, but they can still be obtained from places that develop film, e.g. Meijers, Walmart, Cord Camera.  High School or College photography instructors are also a good source.

If you need a lot of these in a hurry, EBay usually has them in lot quantities.
Fishing Poles




Usage

Helpful in catching fish, trees, scouts,  assistant cubmasters, and other stationary or slow moving objects.  It's recommended that you rig the pole with a casting plug instead of a hook when teaching cub scouts how to cast.


casting plug
 usually made of rubber
Sources

ODNR has a program called Passport to Fishing  intended to introduce kids to fishing.  A Passport to Fishing event consists of a 4-station round robin where kids learn about
  • Fish habitat and handling
  • Fishing Knots and Basic Rigging
  • Casting
  • Finding places to fish
Every kid who completes the round robin receives a spincaster rod and reel that is supplied by ODNR.  The event must be led by an ODNR trained instructor.  Training is free, takes about 6 hours and covers skills and the program reporting requirements.
Flint




Usage

Flint is used to make arrowheads and stone tools.  You can also use it for firestarting by scraping it across a bit of iron.

My kids obtained a bucket full of the stuff at an indian quarry near Flint Ridge (see entry at left).  Sizes ranged from 1"-2" flakes to large paperweight.  The samples are often found encrusted with quartz.

The flakes are often very sharp, so try to discourage your cubs from leaving them between seat cushions or on the floor where someone will step on them . . . at night . . . in bare feet.
Sources

Flint Ridge State Park is located east of Newark. The park encompases quarries that have been mined for flint for over 10,000 years.  While it is not possible to collect flint from the park grounds, the quarries extend out of the park boundary and may be found on several farms to the east of the park.  The owners of these farms will sell you flint by the pound.  

So take your pack to the park, listen to the program, and then drive down the road to collect enough  flint to keep your scouts supplied with arrowheads throughout their scouting career (and beyond).   Follow the links for more information

Hot Glue Guns
Hot glue guns are great for cub crafts because the glue will "cure" in under a minute.  There are two varieties, high temperature and low temperature.  The high temp glue will blister your skin, the low temp glue will sting but shouldn't burn.   Make sure you use the low temp version -- particularly for  younger scouts.

Hot glue sets up quickly, but it's not particularly strong.  Don't use it to build rockets (birdie rockets are an exception) unless you like watching the fins shear off when the rocket is launched.
Sources

Hot glue guns are sold at hobby/craft stores like Hobby Lobby or Michaels.  You can also get them at most hardware stores and places like Harbor Freight.  The cheaper ones work fine and cost about $1.50.  The glue sticks can be purchased in quantity whereever you can find the glue guns.
Laminations


Usage

  • Making laminated wallet cards
  • laminating maps and posters so they don't turn to mush in the rain
  • laminating leaves and notes for a leaf collection.
  • Making raingutter regatta sails
Sources
  • Kinkos will do a 10x20 poster for $10
  • Harbor Freight sells a heat activated laminator for $25.  8x11" Lamination pouches are about 0.10 apiece. Cheaper lamination pouches can be purchased on Ebay.
  • Clear Contact Paper (the stuff you use in your kitchen cabinets) is cheap and works well for posters and maps.
Maps



Usage
  • Map and compass activity
  • Treasure hunts
  • Getting lost; getting found


Business card for odnr maps
Sources
  • The County Engineer's office on Rte. 33 just north of downtown has historically had a box full of county maps that you could drive up to 24 hours a day. Also at the nearest Deputy Registrars office.
  • http://www.fceo.co.franklin.oh.us/maps.htm
  • Topographical maps can be purchased from ODNR.  Read http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/geosurvey/pub/usgstopo.html and pay particular attention to the discussion of 7.5 minute quadrangle maps. See the business card at left for location and contact information.
Mouth Barrier
Mouth Barrier
Usage

Needed to complete first aid kit for Boy Scout Leader Training.
  • Go to http://www.fastenal.com/ and search on part number 1014487.  Cost is $9.60.  Nearest store is 7059 Huntley Rd., near Worthington.
  • Mouth Barriers may also be obtained from the Red Cross for about $5.00
Name Tags
Who knew Ben Bova was a scout?
Usage

You use a nametag to be kind to people who can never remember names.
  • Quartermaster.com has a selection of the usual "pin and post" nametags.  They also have magnetic tags that don't poke holes in your shirt/skin.
  • A google search on Scout nametag will turn up lots of alternative suppliers.
1/8" Paper Straws Usage


These are the straws you drank milk from when you were a kid.  They're no longer made because plastic straws are more sanitary.  

A one to two inch length of paper straw is used as a launch lug -- an essential component of small to medium sized model rockets.
Sources

You can get paper straws on Ebay. They're outrageously expensive (they're considered collectable!?!? -- $10 for a box of 100), but much cheaper than the mylar tubes sold by hobby stores.


Help needed here!
Patches
2008 Readyman patch
Usage



Scouts will do anything for a patch.
Sources

In Dec. 2007, Raven and Associates produced 300 Readyman patches for $0.67 per patch.  Raven says that they need about three weeks (sometimes less) to run a custom order.  

You can also order patches from the Scout Store,  Sunshine, and PatchSales.com.
Pokemon Cards

Usage
  • Dog toys.
  • Rocket fins
Sources

I tell my kids that whatever pokemon cards I find left on the floor I'll turn into craft supplies.  I never run short.
Propane Bottles Usage
  • Running portable lanterns and stoves when full
  • Used to fill landfills when empty
Rock Kits




Rock Kit
Usage

ODNR distributes a geology kit.  It's a box, 1" x 5" x 8", containing a geological map of Ohio and 10 geology specimens.
clay coal dolomite flint gypsum
limestone salt sand and gravel sandstone shale
They're free and you can usually get them in lots of 10-20.

Sources

I don't have the exact source, but the contact information below should get you started.
Business card for odnr maps
Rocket Engines



Usage

Rocket Engines are used to fly model rockets.   A model rocket has two components.  The rocket airframe is reusable.  The rocket engine fits into the airframe and provides the thrust to boost the rocket.  The engines contain gunpowder and can only be used once.
Sources

Model rocket engines can be purchased from the scout shop, hobby stores and websites that sell model rockets.  The best prices I've found are:
  • Michael's:  Michael's often prints a 50% off coupon in the Sunday paper.  Use it to purchase a 24 pack of engines. As of June, 07, the pack cost $54, unit cost with the discount is about $1.15
  • Meijer's often sells 3 pack's of engines for $4.00.  Unit cost is $1.33
I've heard of cheaper sources, but have never been able to locate them.
Root Beer Mix
Root Beer Bottlecap
Usage

Hopefully making Root Beer, although  see
Sources

See the discussion on the District Google Group.  The Wine Maker's Shop in Clintonville had some as of June '08.
Shooting Patches
Shooting patch
Usage
Cubs (BB guns) and Scouts (BB guns, 22 rifles) can qualify for a free shooting patch by shooting a score of 35 on targets provided by the Junior US Shooting Team.  
This can be easily added to shooting sports activities at Council and District events.
Sources
See the Shooting Sports page for more information.  The qualifying target can be downloaded from the web as a PDF file. You can print them on a black and white laser printer and duplicate them at Kinko's or your copy shop of choice.
Spoof Patches
Spoof training badge
Usage

I guess these are for making a personal statement of some sort.  caviat utilitor
Sources
Tent Repair
duct tape
Usage
Scout troops maintain tents that are used by teenage boys.  In spite of typically gentle handling, the zippers sometimes wear out and need replacement.  
Sources
Eureka
Call the customer satisfaction department at 1-800-572-8822 (8:00 am to 5:00 pm M-F).  In Oct. '07 they quoted a price of $50 to replace both zippers on a 3 man Eureka tent.
Wool Pants

wool pants
Usage



Keeping Warm
Sources

Winter in central Ohio is not very challenging compared to other areas of the country.  Still, winter camping can be wet and cold.  Wool pants are significantly warmer than the standard scout pants.  They can be purchased online from various Army surplus suppliers (e.g. this one) for prices ranging from $10 - $25.  Sizes are . . . well they're interesting.  If you're lucky, you'll find pants that approximately fit and are approximately scout green.  If you get the wrong size, you have something that can be used for the camp three legged race.

I'm not sure if these are considered part of a "BSA approved" uniform, but when it's 15 degrees outside, who's going to care?
Wool Sweater
tan sweater
Usage


Keeping Warm
Sources

Scouting is one of the few activities where you can wear a sweater with epaulettes and actually blend in.  This is a tan wool sweater available from at least two military surplus outlets (e.g. this one).  The color matches the standard adult scout shirt.  If you want one for a young scout, just neglect to tell your wife that the sweater is made of wool and the clothes dryer will get the job done.



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